laoliu 于 2000/03/16 22:36:06 发表在 汉英
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完全是“无厘头”、好玩的东西，并无对北京人不敬的意思。
http://www.bjyouth.com.cn/Bqb/20000317/GB/4190^D0317B0209.htm
“打架事件”连日多发
■医生分析 春季情绪躁动易怒
■提醒市民 遇事应该多加克制
本报讯（记者 刘晓玲）前天下午，家住和平街附近的吴某与其妻刘某，因家庭琐事发生口角，直至动手。情急之中刘某拨打110报了警，幸民警及时赶到，方避免了事态的恶化。而几乎与此同时，本市朝阳区大望桥附近的某美发厅内，另一对夫妇因事争吵，一过路行人出于好奇隔窗看热闹，却令争吵中的丈夫大怒，冲出屋外，将“好奇者”暴打一顿。而发生在中关村及雪银大厦西门的两起打架事件似乎更是不值。韩某前往中关村海龙大厦附近的320车站去取订购的盗版光盘。却因光盘的质量问题与贩卖者董某发生冲突，两人不顾周围行人如梭，双双举出重拳大打出手。一好心路人恐其伤亡，拨打110报警。双方自知买卖盗版光盘本属违法，遂在民警到来之前住手并逃之夭夭。在雪银大厦西门，某进口汽车修理厂职工李某路过此处，与同样过路的王某不小心相撞，二人言来语去，口角渐激，其结果双双动手，二人均鼻青脸肿，受皮外伤。
据不完全统计，前天白天本市公安机关接到的300多起报警案件中，因琐事纠纷直至大打出手的，几乎占了一半。而来自同仁医院心理咨询科的消息：开春以来，前来该院就诊的心理疾病患者比平时多三成。
据同仁医院心理咨询科徐大夫介绍：人的情绪在春暖花开、各种植物发芽萌生新绿的时候极易激动。因为在春天，人体的各种神经细胞都变得易常活跃。虽然目前在医学研究中尚无科学的结论，但每年春天，精神病症的发病率都比较高。
有关人士提醒市民：遇事请多加克制，万不可因为琐事导致纠纷直至大打出手。
(Beijing, China) On the afternoon of the day before yesterday, Peace Street residents Wu and wife Liu had an argument over some trivial matter like whose turn it was to take out the garbage. The conflict quickly turned physical. Fearing an all-out defeat and ever being the cool-headed one, Liu had the presence to dial 110 for police. The People's cops arrived on scene in no time and now the couple has agreed to disagree. Meanwhile, another couple was exchanging some unkind words between themselves inside a hair salon at a Big Hope Bridge location in the Morning Sun District. A passer-by, and a curious one, too, watched the drama unfolding through the shop window. The husband fumed at this gratuitous invasion of privacy and dashed outside to give the peeping Tom a jolly good beating. For sure, the two street battles that would earn the scorn of serious brawlers the most happened in the Middle Fortress Village area and near the west entrance to Snowing Silver Edifice. Han had a stealthy rendezvous at a 320 bus depot to pick up an illicit shipment from a fellow who makes a living by hawking bootleg CDs. An altercation arose when some manufacturing defects were discovered on the CDs. Now that was an insult. As they say, there is honor among thieves, let alone pirated CD peddlers. Despite the thick foot traffic, the duo dueled it out as if it were a Tyson-Holyfield rematch, post-ear-biting-era. A passer-by, a Samaritan this time, called 110, thinking he was about to witness a homicide. The fighting men barely escaped prosecution for illegal trade in contrabands by taking leave of each other at the sound of police siren. The confrontation at Snowing Silver's west entrance materialized when Li, a worker at Mo's Import Auto Repair, and Wang, employment status unknown, collided with each other at walking speed, resulting in breakage of fibers on their respective outer clothing. Angry words, then angrier fists, flew freely. They now both have black and blue noses and puffy and shiny faces. Other losses include superficial cuts.
According to an incompleted account, about 300 incidents were reported to the Beijing police HQ that day, half of which were free-for-alls involving good-for-nothings. The Psychological Counselling Department of All My Good Comrades Hospital informs that the number of patients seeking mind care increases by 30% since the beginning of the spring.
Dr. Xu says, We, the People, get all excited when plants start to copulate, germinate, and pollinate. The arrival of springtime seems to be an excuse for nerve cells of all shades to become wanton and reckless. Although science can't tell us why, the vernal season sees more production of crazy nuts than any other.
Concerned parties remind citizens of this fine city: when push comes to shove, pull back your punches.
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Interesting! Thanks!
作者：古月 - 2000/03/16 23:16:56
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哈哈，还是那句话，自由发挥之处读来最过瘾！比原文生动多了。那些地名专有名词的译法很好玩。多谢！
作者：hz - 2000/03/17 09:08:48
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谢谢二位鼓励！
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/17 10:51:32
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老刘，您懂“无厘头”，难道也是同乡？借此机会向您兜售一瓶万金油。小心：明天再叮您几口！
作者：Last Hermit - 2000/03/17 11:06:15
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表时间段的介词on与in
＊“in”用于时间段
如果要表示某事在某时间段内发生，“in”可与世纪、年份、季节、月份和一天中的时间段，如“morning”、“afternoon”和“evening”连用。“in”也可与“daytime”和“night-time”连用。
注意：如果“morning”、“afternoon”和“evening”有前置或后置修饰语，介词用“on”
＊“on”用于短时间段
若要提及某事发生的日子，可用“on”后随具有名称的日子、序数词表示的日子及有特殊名称的日子，如“birthday”或“anniversary”
I'll send the cheque round on Monday.
Pentonville Prison was set up on Boxing Day, 1842.
...the grey suit Elsa had bought for him on his birthday.
具有名称的日子与“the”连用，可进行强调或对照；与“a”连用可指任何一个具有该名称的日子。
He dided on the Friday and was buried on the Sunday.
It is unlucky to cut your nails on a Friday.
“morning”、“afternoon”、“evening”和“night”若有前置或后置修饰语，也可与“on”连用。
...at 2:30p.m. on a calm afternoon.
There was another important opening on the same evening.
When she arrived the court on the morning of the event, her voice had vanished.
It's terribly good of you to turn out on a night like this.
“on”用于较长时间段
“on”还可与“journey”、“trip”、“voyage”、“flight”和“way”等表示旅行的词连用，表示某事发生的时间。
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很早以前听到周星驰被这样描述，所以学到了。
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/17 11:37:56
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谢谢您对in和on作为时间介词的详述，我本来对on the afternoon of也不是很肯定的。
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买一送一：“无厘头”，香港人自创（不知道是不是周星驰的发明）……
作者：Last Hermit - 2000/03/17 11:51:18
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是指答非所问，莫名其妙，哗众取宠的词语或话语，或荒诞不经，毫无意义的废话。如：问：老刘，您吃饭没有？答：你讲话呀？甲说：我爱你。乙说：克林顿去了度假，等等。不过，这种现象好象已经式微。
窃以为文中用in the afternoon of the day before yesterday恐怕也可以。
忘了说明：楼上的语法贴是抄COBUILD的。
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Heed AltaVista I Do :-)
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/17 12:10:08
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on the afternoon of
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in the afternoon of
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I agree with you that "in" is good usage, but I personally favor "on."
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I don't want to open a new thread, so here it goes:
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/17 14:07:31
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Congratulations on this lively piece of English prose!
作者：tian xin - 2000/03/17 16:41:37
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It has captured the humor and mocking quality of the original, and you have shown yourself a master of the colloquial, and of bilingual skills.
Here are a couple of minor suggestions for your reference:
>the two street battles that would earn the scorn of serious brawlers the most happened in the Middle Fortress Village area and near the west entrance to Snowing Silver Edifice.
the two street battles that would MOST earn the scorn of serious brawlers took place in the Middle Fortress...
>According to an incompleted account, about 300 incidents were reported to the Beijing police HQ that day,
an incomplete account
>the number of patients seeking mind care increases by 30% since the beginning of the spring.
has increased
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好久不见，欢迎欢迎！
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/17 18:44:57
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我自己看了好多次，也没看出那三个错误来，谢谢。还要谢谢您的鼓励。
我想您的假期一定不错吧！
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是的。谢谢！
作者：tian xin - 2000/03/18 05:27:19
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卖一瓶万金油给您，其实是想叮您几口！
作者：Last Hermit - 2000/03/18 10:02:20
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您译得很生动，很有趣，还让我学了不少口语。但似乎有些地方值得商榷。鄙人不揣冒昧，作如下建议：
1)Wu and his wife。如果光用“wife”的话，则应大写成“Wife”。
2)some trivial matterS
3)110 for thepolice。“police”是集合名词，应用“the”。
4)on thescene，或干脆不要
5)前面用“arrived”，这里似乎用“had”为好?
6)用“another couple was having another quarrel inside…”似乎更好玩儿？
7)“本市朝阳区大望桥附近”除了鄙人是刘姥姥不懂外，北京市民大多知道是哪里，因而是“around (the) Big Hope Bridge”。
8)“the most”我当时愣了一下，后来又仿佛觉得可以，好在姐姐已指出来了。不过，窃以为“earn most the…”似乎更好？
9)“shipment”指大批量的货物发运，改用“delivery”如何？
10)“hawking”是指沿街高声叫卖，我们这里卖D版CD的不能公开售卖(如刚扫荡完)时，他/她会走近你身旁，悄悄地说：“老兄，要不要VCD，四级的，顶级的？”我想北京也不会这样高声吆喝。用“peddling”如何？
11)“Now that”与“Now, that”不同。前者通常作连词用，表“既然”；后者的“now”是为加强语气，相当于“哎，这还得了”。
12)foot traffic？不知道可不可以这样用？
13)post-ear-biting-era是口语么？是不是“后勾拳”之类？但为何用“era”
14)“barely”作“hardly”讲，如果这样，似乎说明两人没躲过捡控？
15)“contraband”是不具数名词。应为“in contraband”。
16)“copulate”是“交媾”的正式用语，用在植物上似乎不妥？
17)“concerned parties”用在句首似乎不妥，改用“The parties concerned”如何？
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脸上起了几个大包，但是很舒服！
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/18 18:12:48
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万金油很难求得啊，谢谢了！
>1)Wu and his wife。如果光用“wife”的话，则应大写成“Wife”。
I thought about using Wu and his wife Liu, but was't sure if residents or resident should precede it. Well, actually, the singular form is out of the question, as using it would imply only Wu is a Peace Street resident. But if it's residents, the fragment should read "...residents, Wu and his wife Liu, ..." I decided to compact it into the current form. （residents和后面的碎片是同位[？]的关系，如果是“Wu and his wife”的话，读的人可能认为同位的只是Wu，而且and是来连接“resident(s) Wu”和“(his) wife Liu”。如用“Wu and wife Liu”的话，这个碎片如此紧凑，读句子的人没法给它分开，“residents” 和 “Wu and wife Liu” 同位的关系就很明朗。）And, why capitalize wife?
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2)some trivial matterS
我是在说“that certain travial matter”，而like后面的“whose turn it was”是一对一的猜测或陈述，而不是多对一的举例。好像说：Some guy called me today and said I owned him money. What nerve!
3)110 for thepolice。“police”是集合名词，应用“the”。
是的。
4)on thescene，或干脆不要
是的。
5)前面用“arrived”，这里似乎用“had”为好?
我想两个选择是：不要has，也不要now；就照原样。（这是很新的新闻，我想has是可以的。）
6)用“another couple was having another quarrel inside…”似乎更好玩儿？
It might be misconstrued as "the couple was having another one of their [many] arguments."
7)“本市朝阳区大望桥附近”除了鄙人是刘姥姥不懂外，北京市民大多知道是哪里，因而是“around (the) Big Hope Bridge”。
我猜想大望桥其实是地名，所以，“a Big Hope Bridge location”好像是说“a Manhattan location”。不过“Morning Sun District”前不应用the，因为是正式划分的division。
8)“the most”我当时愣了一下，后来又仿佛觉得可以，好在姐姐已指出来了。不过，窃以为“earn most the…”似乎更好？
我也不是很明白。（参考：He earns the most money in the family.)
9)“shipment”指大批量的货物发运，改用“delivery”如何？
是的。
10)“hawking”是指沿街高声叫卖，我们这里卖D版CD的不能公开售卖(如刚扫荡完)时，他/她会走近你身旁，悄悄地说：“老兄，要不要VCD，四级的，顶级的？”我想北京也不会这样高声吆喝。用“peddling”如何？
是的。后面的peddler改为pusher以免重复。
11)“Now that”与“Now, that”不同。前者通常作连词用，表“既然”；后者的“now”是为加强语气，相当于“哎，这还得了”。
是的，改后语气是强多了。
12)foot traffic？不知道可不可以这样用？
可以，好像“pedestrian traffic”一样。
13)post-ear-biting-era是口语么？是不是“后勾拳”之类？但为何用“era”
在一次比赛中，Tyson咬了Holyfield的耳朵一口。
14)“barely”作“hardly”讲，如果这样，似乎说明两人没躲过捡控？
是的！改为 narrowly或改为“was able to escape”并在“by taking”前加only ？
15)“contraband”是不具数名词。应为“in contraband”。
是的。
16)“copulate”是“交媾”的正式用语，用在植物上似乎不妥？
是不好。但是我要三个关于植物生命周期的动词，而且最好以-ate结尾。替我想一个吧。procreate或propagate？
17)“concerned parties”用在句首似乎不妥，改用“The parties concerned”如何？
如果可以说“ concerned citizens”，为什么不可以说“concerned parties”呢？
谢良医好药！
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再送万金油！
作者：Last Hermit - 2000/03/18 23:46:30
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>1)Wu and his wife。如果光用“wife”的话，则应大写成“Wife”。
I thought about using Wu and his wife Liu, but was't sure if residents or resident should precede it. Well, actually, the singular form is out of the question, as using it would imply only Wu is a Peace Street resident. But if it's residents, the fragment should read "...residents, Wu and his wife Liu, ..." I decided to compact it into the current form. （residents和后面的碎片是同位[？]的关系，如果是“Wu and his wife”的话，读的人可能认为同位的只是Wu，而且and是来连接“resident(s) Wu”和“(his) wife Liu”。如用“Wu and wife Liu”的话，这个碎片如此紧凑，读句子的人没法给它分开，“residents” 和 “Wu and wife Liu” 同位的关系就很明朗。）And, why capitalize wife?
Sentence Fragments
A sentence fragment is a clause or phrase that does not form a complete sentence but is punctuated as though it does. Fragments are often used in informal correspondence or fiction, particularly in dialogue to communicate halting speech. In formal writing, however, they should be rewritten as complete sentences or attached to another related sentence.
The easiest fragments to identify are phrases that do not include a subject-verb combination.
Incorrect: The party was a great success. The best one ever.
Correct: The party was a great success. It was the best one ever.
Or: The party was a great success—the best one ever.
Some fragments, however, are dependent clauses. A dependent clause has a subject and verb, but it must be linked to an independent clause to form a complete sentence (see Clauses and Phrases).
Incorrect: Frederick wrote the letter. Because he needed to tell her how he felt.
Correct: Frederick wrote the letter. He needed to tell her how he felt.
Or: Frederick wrote the letter because he needed to tell her how he felt.
To avoid mispunctuation, remember that a clause that begins with a conjunction is usually dependent and therefore cannot stand alone as a sentence.
窃以为，“residents, Wu and his wife”中的“Wu and his wife”无论从句子还是逻辑上看，都是同位的。把“wife”大写是戏谑用法，仿佛大家都这么叫“吴先生的妻子”，或者“wife”是她的职业，犹“Professor X”，可算是鄙人的发明？不过，在新闻体上这么用，显然是不当的。只能用在小说里。您说呢？
2)some trivial matterS
我是在说“that certain travial matter”，而like后面的“whose turn it was”是一对一的猜测或陈述，而不是多对一的举例。好像说：Some guy called me today and said I owned him money. What nerve!
由于原文是指“家庭琐事”，因而用复数。如果要表示陈述或猜测的话，则用“something”较妥。
5)前面用“arrived”，这里似乎用“had”为好?
我想两个选择是：不要has，也不要now；就照原样。（这是很新的新闻，我想has是可以的。）
对，不要“has”，也不要“now”，原来想这么说，不知为何忘了！至于，用“has”，似乎用于电台或电视台新闻里较妥？
6)用“another couple was having another quarrel inside…”似乎更好玩儿？
It might be misconstrued as "the couple was having another one of their [many] arguments."
联系上下文，应该不会。
7)“本市朝阳区大望桥附近”除了鄙人是刘姥姥不懂外，北京市民大多知道是哪里，因而是“around (the) Big Hope Bridge”。
我猜想大望桥其实是地名，所以，“a Big Hope Bridge location”好像是说“a Manhattan location”。不过“Morning Sun District”前不应用the，因为是正式划分的division。
这里的地名用不用限定词，只是习惯而已。
8)“the most”我当时愣了一下，后来又仿佛觉得可以，好在姐姐已指出来了。不过，窃以为“earn most the…”似乎更好？
我也不是很明白。（参考：He earns the most money in the family.）
用“earns most”是惯常的用法，无可争议。例句中“the most money”中的“most”是代词，意谓“He earns more than any others do”。如：The storm did (the) most damage to the houses on the cliff(=it damaged them more than any other houses)(《朗文当代高级英语辞典》)
16）“copulate”是“交媾”的正式用语，用在植物上似乎不妥？
是不好。但是我要三个关于植物生命周期的动词，而且最好以-ate结尾。替我想一个吧。procreate或propagate？
“propagate”吧，响亮一点。
17）“concerned parties”用在句首似乎不妥，改用“The parties concerned”如何？
如果可以说“ concerned citizens”，为什么不可以说“concerned parties”呢？
如果把“concerned”放在前面，则必须加“the”。但这样做，便具备了“永久性”特征。而放在后面则表示“短暂性”：
有少数几个a-形容词和“absent”、“present”、“concerned”以及“involved”这四个形容词，当它们表示“短暂性”的特征而不是“永久性”的特征时，通常置于它们所修饰的名词之后(而不置于它们之前)，例如：
The house (which is) ablaze is next door to mine.
The boats (which were) afloat were not seen by the bandits.
The men (who were) present were his supporters.
The people (who were) involved were not found.
在美国英语中，如果名词短语的中心词是“party”或“parties”，那么“involved”和“concerned”这两个形容词不管是放在名词的前面还是后面，其意义可以是相同的：
the involved party, the concerned parties.
(《朗文英语语法大全》)
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谢谢！
作者：laoliu - 2000/03/20 10:25:24
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我确实有漏掉 the 的情况，所以要多纠正。其他的问题，我也会一样注意。
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