请教一下这句话的含义
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bambi 于 2000/08/28 05:07:36 发表在 汉英
早年一位美国人的话：I blush for my own people when I compare the selfish prudence of the Yankee with the generous confidence of a Virginian.
请教一下该如何理解、翻译？
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不知道出处，尽管译：弗吉尼亚人大方、自信，而美国佬则自私、胆怯，我真为咱们美国人脸红。
作者：Last Hermit - 2000/08/28 05:32:31
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译得不错。也许应稍微强调一下美国北方佬与南方佬方面。
作者：pedant - 2000/08/28 07:14:10
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哦，明白了。当初就是搞不懂这Yankee和Virginian有什么区别，还以为后者是南非那个呢。谢谢！
作者：Last Hermit - 2000/08/28 07:59:38
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确是高手，原文是有这样的意思的
作者：bambi - 2000/08/28 08:40:02
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不过还请明示，它暗含南北方什么区别？
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与美国的CIVIL WAR 有关。
作者：XY - 2000/08/28 10:38:00
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Yankee : an inhabitant of New England or one of the northern states; a federal soldier in the civil war.
the North: the northeastern states of the United States, especially those opposed to slavery during the Civil War, in Chinese, 美国内战或南北战争。1861－1865， 北方打败了南方。
建议您查查有关美国南北战争的资料，会大有收益的。
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Civil War: Gettysburg
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/28 12:02:37
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One of the major and bloddiest battles of the American Civil war took place at Gettysburg between a large contigent
of Confederate Army making up of Virginian, under the
Conmmand of General Robert E. Lee and Longstreet,
against an Yankee army composed mainly of Yankees
(Maine, Maasachusettes, etc..)
"Four score and seven years ago....
... and that the government of the people, by the people,
for the people, shall not perish..."
Let's hope that many nation wake up to the fact that
a government should be a government "of the people,by the people, and for the people", but not "owns the people,
and overlord of the people."
by the people
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What a mess ! Re-post
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/28 12:35:04
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One of the major and bloodiest battles of the American Civil war took place at Gettysburg between
a large contigent
of Confederate Army making up of Virginians, under the
Command of Generals Robert E. Lee and Longstreet,
against a Yankee army composed mainly of Yankees
(Maine, Maasachusettes, etc..)
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In what context or sense are you looking for the南北方什么区别
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/28 12:49:04
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In the context of the American Civil War, North and South
are divided along the Mason-Dixon line.
The Mason-Dixon line is the boundary between Maryland and
Pennsylvania. During the Civil War, states north of the line
belonged to the "Union" (north) and are considered as "free states".
States south of the line belonged to the "Confederates"(south) or
"slave states."
The Northern states included many of most industrialized states
in the USA whereas the southern state were mostly rural and agricultural.
Southeners, in spite of their stand on slavery and their old fashion
and conservative (religion-wise) outlook, are considered to be a
warm , hospitable and down-to-earth people. Yankees were stereotyped as cock-sure,
aloof and some what arrogant and condescending people. All these
stereotyping is, of course, unfair, since every region have plenty of
both types of people.
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非常感谢，难得从小春夏秋冬不读书还知道这么多:)
作者：XY - 2000/08/28 13:16:36
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My brain is more like a garbage can than a jewelry box.正当书无多读, 旁门左道的什碎事却知一点点
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/28 16:05:48
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What a garbage can!I would like to exchange my jewelry box(empty)for your garbage can:)
作者：XY - 2000/08/28 16:18:48
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According to Lao Tzu, a container (or vesel) is useful only because it has an empty space. So your empty jewelry box must be very useful indeed.
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/29 01:50:22
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According to Lao Tzu, a container (or vessel) is useful only because it has an empty space. So your empty jewelry box must be very useful indeed.
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/29 01:51:05
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The second paragraph helps me a lot
作者：bambi - 2000/08/28 18:59:53
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Thank you, and thank every one.
Then, do you mean that a Virginian mentioned in the original text stands for what you mentioned as Southerners? That is what has puzzled me.
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Virginians in the civil war.
作者：The Yeti - 2000/08/29 01:33:55
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Sorry, I did not mean to mislead. I was making a pretty general
statement about "southerners". In any country that has a diversified
population, there tend to be certain stereotyping about people
of different regions. In China, I am sure, people associate different
types of characteristics to people from different provinces.
(E.g. a few months ago, some people in this forum was having
fun with the term 湖南(喇)妹子 (can't find the word "spicy" in a hurry).
But are all of them really spicy? I don't know. I haven't even met
one yet.)
Sorry, I digressed, as usual ! Coming back to the subject, as auntie XY
pointed out in her post, the quotation you mentioned probably "与美国的CIVIL WAR 有关".
That message set the gears inside my head turning. I happened to know just a little
bit about the civil war so I decided to dwell on the subject.
The Confederate army was composed of people from many southern states: North and South
Carlolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Virginia, to mention but a few. Each group
has their own characteristics. The Virginians were known to be "not impulsive, but cool and steady under fire."
So I thought that this "confidence of the Virginian" may either be a known
characteristics of people from Virginia or the Virginian acquired such fame as a result of
their behaviour on the battlefield during the civil war.
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