初恋 于 1999/11/27 10:30:40 发表在 汉英
表示爱上某人,除了用“love”之外,还可有多少种变换选择呢?请各位帮帮忙,中英文都要。咱先列一些英文的:
I love you!
I'm fond of you!
I'm desperately in love with you.
I have a fancy for you.
I have a crush on you.
I'm falling for you.
I admire you, adore you, idolize you, worship you, think worlds of you, love you to distraction.
I'm deeply attached to you.
I'm head over heels in love with you.
I got swept off my feet because of you!
都可用来表示对情人的爱吧?还有吗?花样越多越好,中英文都行!
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听我说,“我爱你,不骗你,就象老农爱玉米。”
作者:forgot - 1999/11/27 10:36:20
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I love you, don't lie to you, just like a farmer loving his maize.
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也试试
作者:陶然 - 1999/11/27 10:41:35
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I love you, don't lie to you, just like a nerd loving his CPU.
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How about "I love ye, never lied to ye, just like Garanti(?) love his money."?
作者:锌 - 1999/11/27 13:33:05
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I love ye, never lie to ye, just like Grandet loving his gold.
作者:Owen - 1999/11/27 14:56:51
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You mean "Grandet" as in Eugenie Grandet by Honore De Balzac?
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先应应景,杜撰几个……。
作者:爱在心上 - 1999/11/27 10:40:03
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也许是我见闻有限,也许是中国人只爱在心上,不管怎么样,连抄带编,扔扔小砖头,
凑个周末热闹:
心肝儿,宝贝儿,小甜心儿,爱,小爱人儿,暖心窝儿,朝也思,暮也想,梦中的人儿,小妹妹,亲姐姐,小嫂嫂,小俏俏,小手绢,小手手儿,伴伴儿,成双儿,缺不了儿,少不得儿,
妻,贤妻,内助,贤内助,半边天儿,大半边天儿,孩儿的妈,我心上的家,我眼里的花,我嘴上的她,我早上的奶茶,白天的影子儿,晚上的被子儿,我的一切,一切的一切,我所有的家裆儿,
还是她!
当然还有
屋里的,我的那口子,我的那位,拙荆……。
也是她!
要是不过瘾哪,众人拾柴火焰高!
大伙一块儿加几条……
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再加两句……。
作者:爱在心上 - 1999/11/27 10:43:19
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我嘴里含着的,(还怕化了);
我手上捧着的,(还怕撒了);
我怀里搂着的,(还怕吓着)……
我那可恨的,
小挨千刀的,
真想咬你两口,
踢你两脚,
好好地摔上两跤,
好好打打,痛快闹闹,
一直到
打成了一个团,
也分不出哪还是你,哪还是我,
干脆像是揉面,
揉在了一块
再重新捏两个小人儿,
这么着,
你里边也有了我,
我里边也有了你,
我就把你叫作
我的最崇高的爱,
我的最无上的创造!
我的魂儿哟,
我的乖乖哟,
我的小小小小的乖鸟儿!
我的小小小小的乖猫儿!
........
加句标准的:小冤家!等等。
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真有两下子!让您这么一耍,中文占尽风头!
作者:初恋 - 1999/11/27 10:45:04
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what the old Shake'-guy once said ...
作者:forgot-to-plagiarize - 1999/11/27 10:46:24
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love is a smoke raised with the fume of sighs;
being purged, a fire sparkling in lovers' eyes;
being vex'd, a sea nourish'd with lovers' tears;
what is it else? a madness most discreet,
a choking gall and persevering sweet.
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这阳春白雪可就费点神了。谢谢!
作者:初恋 - 1999/11/27 12:42:19
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Now all I ask is to forget you, but the more I try, the more I remember you
作者:Mrs Shakespeare - 1999/11/27 13:21:13
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Even on your "second best bed":-)
作者:Mr Shakespeare - 1999/11/27 14:59:49
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Love is too young to know what comparative degree means.
作者:Dark Lady - 1999/11/27 15:40:33
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And love is too old not to know the meaning of the superlative as well;-)
作者:Maskman - 1999/11/27 16:00:51
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Love never fails, be it young or old.
作者:Cupid - 1999/11/27 16:21:48
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And love alone never succeeds as somebody said earlier.
作者:Qiongyao - 1999/11/27 16:35:12
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You are so
作者:right! - 1999/11/27 16:45:14
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And yet, and yet....I'm...
作者:left - 1999/11/27 16:50:18
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求教
作者(Author):hundouluo - 2004/03/19 21:05:43
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能告诉我这句的意思吗?我英语不好。多多按、感谢
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小妈咪,sweetie, 小daddy, sweaty
作者:Geoff - 1999/11/27 13:30:44
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That's cool! First time heard about it. Sweet indeed! And true to the heart, too!
作者:Thanks! - 1999/11/27 13:59:51
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As sweet as sweet potato ;-)
作者:G - 1999/11/28 04:37:04
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Come on! Spare my nerves! Don't drive me crazy ;-)
作者:Thanks! - 1999/11/28 10:19:38
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凑趣
作者:方壶斋 - 1999/11/27 20:00:05
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我爱你, 疼你, 想你, 捏你, 掐死你, 搂你, 抱你, 亲你, 啃你, 吃了你,化了你 (翻译你---
许渊冲: 翻译即化学)
你是我的心肝, 宝贝, 甜心, 小猫, 小狗, 小辣椒, 小可人, 大傻冒 (你真傻!), 小坏包(你
真坏!)
看来这是个open set, 问乔姆斯基去, 语言的创造性。
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没想到 ;-)
作者:pedant - 1999/11/27 20:17:49
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Someone here must have been reading the Kama Sutra ;-)
作者:子曰 - 1999/11/28 00:19:51
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I haven't read much about Kama Sutra yet, but...
作者:古月 - 1999/11/28 12:57:04
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years ago I did a short paper on Shakti Tantra. It's hereby posted for your kind proofreading, my great teacher! Kundalini-ShaktiVital Energy to Be Conducted For Hormonal Balance?Contents
Preface ........................................................3
Introduction ................................................4
I. Shakti and Its Kundalini-Yoga ................................5
Shakti ................................................5
Kundalini-Shakti ........................................7
The Kundalini-Yoga ........................................7
II. Sublimation of Libido? ........................................8
Difference between Kundalini-Yoga and Jnana-Yoga ..........8
A Point Just as Slippery as the Serpent ................9
Freud's Sublimation? ................10
III. Theoretical Validity of Kundalini-Yoga ................11
A Liberal Argument ................................11
An Ascetic Argument .........................12
A Moderate Synthesis ................................12
Conclusion ................................................14
BIBLIOGRAPHY ........................................................16
Preface
Kundalini-Shakti, as vital energy, is the primal force that forges all ties in the universe, from human bonds to celestial links. Invisible yet ever-present, Shakti provides the world with the very momentum of life, and those who learn how to maintain their hormonal balance in a blissful union with Shiva through Shakti may harness that vital energy to enhance their spirituality, and thereby, to attain Jivanmukti (Liberation while yet living).
This paper focuses on a particular sect of the Shakti Tantra called Kaula which is known for its practice of Kundalini-Yoga, a form of meditation that aims at attaining Jivanmukti by, among other steps, arousing Kundalini-Shakti at the lowest centre of the body. Indeed, extinction, sublimation or liberation of sexual desire and passion is among the most elusive topics that has intrigued mankind for centuries, and its truth value is still subject to our individual judgement up to the present day. The purpose of this paper is to introduce the reader to the basic rationale of the Kundalini-Yoga practised by the Kaulas of the Shakti-Tantra, to take a critical look into the validity of its theoretical aspect, and to offer a tentative approach to hormonal balance by which married people may further fasten their wed-lock and celibates may expect to smoothly conduct their desire and passion free from the ordeal of either extinguishing or exhausting the vital fire inside them.
May this paper provide all readers with abundant food for thought and sufficient fuel for life!
Gu Yue
August, 1994
Introduction
To introduce the Kundalini-Yoga practised by the Kaulas of the Shakti School of the Tantra, we have to begin with a brief introduction of the Tantra.
The term Tantra literally means "the scriptures by which knowledge is spread." Generally speaking, the Tantra offers guidance to its believers in their spiritual achievement and intellectual attainment. The Tantra, just as the Vedas, is claimed to be Agama, or revealed truth. An old Tantra text asserts that it is a kind of revelation with similar characteristics of Vedas. One Tantra school, the Kularnava claims that all the rites of the Tantra are based on the teachings of the Vedas. Some other Tantra schools, the Prapancasara and the Meru, say that Trantra is part of the Vedas. The Niruttara Tantra calls the Tantra as the fifth Veda. The Matsyasukta-maha-tantra and the Gandharsa Tantra claim that Tantrik followers must be believers in the Vedas and live in Brahman. The Kularnava Tantra says that there is no knowledge higher than that of the Vedas and no doctrine equal to the Kaula.
Originated in India, various forms of Tantrik Yoga are now being practised all over the world, especially in Asia. There are numerous Tantra schools and sects. The modes of practice prescribed by the Vedic brahmins varies from school to school. Generally speaking, their religious performances include sacrifices, fire worships, meditation, chanting of mantras (esoteric spells). To waken a kind of hidden power in one's own body through different postures accompanied by spell-chanting is common in the Vedic rituals and modern Tantrik practices.
This paper is not intended to introduce the history of Tantra, nor to compare its numerous schools. Instead, it focuses on one of the schools called the Shakti School, and, in particular, the Kundalini-Yoga practised by the Kaulas.
First, I give a brief account of the basic elements or features of the Kundalini-Yoga of the Shakti School. Then I shall try to take a comparative look into its rationale from a Freudian perspective of sublimation. Next, I shall examine its validity within philosophical and scientific framework, and argue that the hormonal balance of great sages could have been maintained by properly conducting the sexual drive. And I shall conclude with some practical advice to my interested readers.
I. Shakti and Its Kundalini-Yoga
Shakti
Although the word Shakti is generally used to mean "power," or "energy," different Tantrik scholars have attached to its definition somewhat different nuances as to its nature and gender. Some take it to mean hidden human energy in general, while others, such as Kaulas discussed in this paper, regard it as sexual energy. Dr C. Sharma, in his A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy, defines Shakti as "the power of Existence, Knowledge and Bliss of Brahman." He then goes on to say, "Shakti may be taken as male, female or neutral. Shiva is the pure indeterminate Brahman, while Shakti, the power of Maya, makes him determinate, endowed with the attributes of knowledge, will and action."1 But the author of Transformation and Trend of Buddhism defines Shakti as "female divine energy."2 And Sir John Woodroffe, in his The Serpent Power, has the following to say about Shakti:
Shakti, which comes from the root Shak, "to have power," "to be able," means power. As she is one with Shiva as Power-holder (Shaktiman), She as such Power is the power of Shiva or Consciousness. There is no difference between Shiva as the possessor of power (Shaktiman) and Power as It is in Itself. The power of Consciousness is Consciousness in its active aspect.
This interpretation seems to be very close to what is given by Dr. Sharma when he quotes Saundaryalahari as saying "Shiva, when he is united with Shakti, is able to create; otherwise he is unable even to move."3 Then he says that Shiva, without Shakti, is a corpse. Therefore, Shakti is the life of Shiva as if she is his wife.
The notion implied here is obvious to a Chinese Daoist. It emphasizes the oneness or indivisibility of yin (female) and yang (male) to the point that the union or division of the two would mean life or death. The reason why Shakti is often given a feminine role might be attributed to the fact that most of the Shakti practitioners are males in search of the Vital Force of the opposite pole. Dr Sharma has made a very shrewd point in saying that Shakti may be taken as male, female or neutral. So long as Shiva and Shakti both form an integral whole in Consciousness, with Shakti being the vital energy of Shiva, it does not matter much if we use She or He to refer to either. If Shiva is identified with a male being, then as His other half, Shakti should automatically be female, and vice versa. And in the eye of a Chinese Daoist, the gender of Shakti depends, to a large extent, on that of It's aspirant.
Kundalini-Shakti
The Shakti Tantra has three schools -- Kaula, Samaya and Misha. The subject of this paper centres around the Kaula School. The kind of Tantrik Yoga that the Kaulas practice is named Kundalini-Yoga, the goal of which is attained by awakening the Kundalini-Shakti, or Supreme Power in the human body. According to Sir John, "Kundalini means coiled. The power is the Goddess (Devi) Kundalini, or that which is coiled; for Her form is that of a coiled and sleeping serpent in the lowest bodily centre, at the base of the spinal column, until by the means described She is aroused in that Yoga which is named after Her. Kundalini is the Divine Cosmic Energy in bodies."4 Therefore, he calls Kundalini-Shakti "the Serpent Power."
The Kundalini-Yoga
This particular Yoga proceeds as follows:
Accompanied by different postures and formations (of mandalas and mudras), the Yogi awakens Kundalini with a special Mantra (spell-chanting), and She, once aroused, would then act as agent, upon the signal of each different Mantra, to pierce the Six Centres or Lotuses of the body, namely, Muladhara, Suadhisthana, Manipura, Anahuta, Visuddha and Ajna. According to what is shown in Plate I of The Serpent Power, these centres are lined up along the central axis of the human body from the bottom to the top. When Kundalini-Shakti is thus conducted from bottom to top through the Six Centres and offered to Shiva, the aspirant Yogi will experience the bliss of devotion to (or union with) God (Brahman), and the Supreme Consciousness is thereby attained through Kundalini-Shakti, the Serpent Power. (to be continued)
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II. Sublimation of Libido? (continued from above)
作者:古月 - 1999/11/28 13:00:17
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What is the central rationale behind the seemingly esoteric rituals and practices of the Kundalini-Yoga? Why so many authors repeatedly emphasize that this particular type of Yoga has to be practised with great caution and strictly under the direction of a well-qualified Guru (Master)? In other words, what is the difference that makes this school so particularly elusive to the human mind?
Difference between Kundalini-Yoga and Jnana-Yoga
The term Jnana means knowledge. As its name suggests, pure Jnana-Yoga aims at attaining ecstasy (Samadhi) by intellectual process of meditation (without awakening Kundalini-Shakti) and by detachment from the world, etc. In the Kundalini-Yoga, however, while the intellectual process is also essential, the creative and original Shakti of the whole body as Kundalini is awakened and truly reunited with the Lord Consciousness. So the fundamental difference between the common Jnana-Yoga and this Kundalini-Yoga in particular is the arousing of Kundalini, the Serpent. As Sir John points out, if the Jnana-Yoga is targeted on Jnana (knowledge), then the Kundalini-Yoga embraces both Jnana (knowledge) and Karma(action).
What is that which dwells in "the lowest bodily centre"? The Maya-Tantra says, if I may quote Sir John from his The Serpent Power:
By "bliss of union of Shiva and Shakti" is meant the sense of enjoyment arising from the union of male and female.5
In another place, Sir John says:
Doubtless, also, there is a relationship and correspondence between the Shaktis of the mental and sexual centres, and the force of the latter, if directed upwards, extraordinarily heightens all mental and physical functioning. In fact those who are "centred" know how to make all their forces converge upon the object of their will,and train and then use all such forces and neglect none.6
Similar interpretations are expressed or implied throughout The Serpent Power as the central theme of the Kundalini-Yoga. In fact, this is the essential point from which this sex Yoga departs from other forms.
A Point Just as Slippery as the Serpent
The idea behind the Kundalini-Yoga is to arouse the sexual drive in the lowest bodily centre and mentally conduct it throughout the Six Centres including that in the head, as if in a bliss of union with Shiva through Shakti. Although the mind and body are projected towards reaching a resonant state similar to the Christian concept of "love without lust," the resultant psychic power is actually achieved by harnessing sex energy inside the body as a kind of mental/physical fertilizer to improve health in general and to benefit the brain in particular. In other words, it is a process whereby sexual energy is transmuted into pure spiritual power.
The most elusive point is: the practitioner, on the one hand, has to arouse his sexual drive, but at the same time, he mustn't gratify his desire by any form of abrupt outward irruption as what happens in a conventional coitus, and instead, he must diffuse it gently inside the whole body (which includes the brains). Isn't it as slippery as a snake? How many people, especially if they are not yet old enough, can expect to arouse his sexual drive without quenching his desire in a conventional manner? It would be otherwise easier either not to arouse Kundalini as in many other forms of Yoga, or to gratify the desire by relieving the "lowest bodily centre" of that serpent. That's why "some kaulas are called Vama-margi and are generally believed to be indulging in abominable and ghastly practices."7 Although the author did not specify what are those "abominable and ghastly practices," judging from the nature of Kundalini-Yoga, the sexual arousal may easily lead to aberrations such as masturbation or even promiscuous rituals as some deviant sects do perform. That points to the difficulty not only in its practice but also in its instruction and understanding. As Sir John rightly points out, "The experienced followers of this method, however, allow that this method is liable to be accompanied by certain inconveniences or dangers, and it is therefore considered inadvisable except for the fully competent (Adhikari)."8
Freud's Sublimation?
The Kundalini-Yoga's theoretical foundation probably served as a source of inspiration for Freud's psychoanalytic hypothesis of "sublimation."
Freud believes that sexual energy, or "libido" as he dubbed it, is the primal source of all human energy, and that it could be either sublimated or displaced. He says that it will not disappear no matter how hard it is repressed, and that it will always express itself in one way or another. If it is positively sublimated, it could be constructively diverted towards social ends of greater value and non-sexual in character. If it is negatively displaced, however, it would find expression in destructive behaviour that would do harm to the society.
Similar notions can also be found in the Chinese Daoist tradition. "To return the semen to nourish the brain" is commonly practised by either Daoist adepts or by married couples. A Daoist adept would practice similar meditation as Kundalini-Yogis do to transmute sexual energy into pure spiritual power. A married man would use "semen retention" method to engage in love-making without, or with optimized spacing of, ejaculation. The basic purpose of this method is to increase as much as possible the quantity of life-replenishing hormones secreted in a man's body during sexual excitement while at the same time decreasing as much as possible the loss of semen and its related hormones through ejaculation.
III. Theoretical Validity of Kundalini-Yoga
No doubt, just as Freud's hypothesis of sublimation has been violently attacked by modern science, especially endocrinology, the Kundalini-Yoga must have met opposition, especially from two extremes, namely, liberals and ascetics.
A Liberal Argument
Sexual energy conservation or sublimation is nonsense. Modern endocrinology has shown that to every display of sexual activity, the human gonads produce two secretions, one is hormonal secretion which goes into the blood stream to benefit the entire human system, the other is semen which would pass out of the body in any event and therefore can not be saved. Sexual continence will only lead to psychological and physiological perversion and disorder.
This argument would justify those who indulge in aberrant practices such as masturbation and promiscuity.
An Ascetic Argument
The Kundalini-Yogis are heretics who keep alive their evil desire and passion instead of extinguishing it as great religious founders have taught us to do. As they are tampering with the evil fire, they are bound to get burnt in the process.
This view tends to make people believe that religious celibates truly acquire the extinction of desire and passion through strong-willed continence.
A Moderate SynthesisThe two fore-going diametrically opposed views are just strong enough to refute each other and, as a result, a moderate synthesis to support the Kundalini-Yoga is confirmed.
First, the liberal argument is valid as a piece of advice to the ascetic: sex arousal can benefit the human system by providing it with vital hormones which will boost your spirit and make you better able to serve Brahman (or God) and His people, whereas self-willed continence can only lead to disorder.
Then, the ascetic is right to warn the liberal that over-indulgence will only burn up your vital fuel.
But a fully competent Kundalini-Yogi should be neither an ascetic who extinguishes his desire and passion through continence or mortification, nor a libertine who indulges in sex. To the liberal, he would have the following to say.
Sexual energy can be transmuted into spiritual power. By bringing up Kundalini through Six Centres to spirit the whole system, it does not mean that retained semen literally travels up the spine and into the brain. It means that apart from the concomitant hormonal secretion that goes into blood streams to benefit the cells, "the essential elements of retained semen can also be reabsorbed within the man's body, especially in the soft tissues of the prostate and the spongy portion of the urethra, whereby they naturally enter the bloodstream and circulate throughout the body, nourishing all tissues and organs, including the brain. It is a well-known medical fact that semen and cerebrospinal fluids consist of the same basic ingredients, so preserving sexual energy nourish the human system by making more essential nutrients available to it."9
And to the ascetic, he would offer the following argument:
It might be erroneous to think that those religious celibates achieve the extinction of desire and passion through pure continence or mortification. What is desire, and where does it come from? It is a life momentum. When a single cell begins to divide into two, a momentum of growth is involved, and in the case of a thinking human being, that growth momentum is expressed in the form of desire, a tendency to grow. So long as a human being is alive, or there is still life inside a body, cell division continues and so is the process of metabolism. And the desire to grow or the desire derived from growth and life persists. The extinction of desire means the extinction of life. The reason why some great sages do not demonstrate worldly desire and passion might not lie in their sheer mortification, but probably in their inner hormonal balance achieved through a proper conduction of those natural instincts from the body into the universe, just as the lightning rod conducts the thunder flash from above a building down to the earth in a power circuit, instead of blocking the thunder power off the top of building, which is obviously impossible. So the Kundalini-Yoga is intended to build up such a desire rod to conduct it through the central axis of the body up towards the Infinite. And in a sense, it is to upgrade the basic instinctive love to a disinterested love for Lord Consciousness, a love without lust.
Conclusion
The Kundalini-Yoga, as practised by Kaulas of the Shakti School, is still an intriguing food of thought even for today. Although its theoretical validity is still subject to further philosophical research and scientific inquiry, the legacy it leaves is of enormous value. As to its practicability, I have the following advice for all those who are interested:
1. Unmarried men under 30 are not advised to practice this particular Yoga.
2. Middle-aged men and women, especially the shape-conscious group, may practice it as an effective slimming exercise. For it is a well-established medical theory that middle-age obesity is mainly a result of metabolic decline caused by endocrinopathy (or maladjustment of internal secretion). So, sexual arousal can stimulate hormonal secretion which, in turn, will rejuvenate the body's metabolic mechanism, thereby preventing obesity and deferring senility at large.
3. Should aberrations occur such as intractable masturbation urge or promiscuous inclination, especially in the case of male practitioners, suspend practice and try other forms of purely intellectual Yoga first. As for women, the danger here involved is not as serious as for men because of their physiological advantage endowed by Nature (which is the subject of another paper).
4. Note also that transmutation of sex energy into spiritual power does not necessarily mean complete abstention from ejaculation. Moderation is the best approach. Sometimes, relief of the vesicle is as necessary as defecation to keep the hormonal balance; the crux of the matter is to properly space it according to the age and health condition of each practitioner. What is important is the will to conserve energy.
5. Human system including memory can benefit from this Yoga practice, but the much-exaggerated "psychic power" allegedly achievable thereby is not to be aspired. After all, in the process of evolution, man has delegated a great number of his primitive functions to the ways and means he has either discovered or invented with his intellectual faculty.
May Brahman bless you with success!
BIBLIOGRAPHY
1. Woodroffe, J., The Serpent Power, 4th ed., Ganesh & Co., Madras India, 1989.
2. Sharma, C., A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy, Motilal Banarsidass Publishers PVT. LTD., Delhi, India, 1987.
3. Reid, D., The Tao of Health, Sex and Longevity, Simon & Schuster, London, 1989.
4. Tridon, A., Psychoanalysis and Love, Garden City Publishing Company, New York, 1922.
Notes:
1 Sharma, C., A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy, p. 390.
2 Transformation and Trend of Buddhism, p.50.
3 A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy, p.390.
4 Sir John Woodroffe, The Serpent Power, p. 1-2.
5 The Serpent Power, p. 463.
6 Ibid, p. 14.
7 Dr Sharma, p. 390.
8 Sir John, p. 14.
9 Reid, D., The Tao of Health, Sex, and Longevity, p. 277.
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Here is something remotely related to your treatise.
作者:ds - 1999/11/28 14:57:28
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From an article in Wednesday's local newspaper..
London-Here's a scientific finding certain to send athletes partying into the night:Sex on the eve of a game probably will improve, not hurt, an athlete's performance.
The theory comes from New Scientist magazine. According to its report, levels of the male hormone testosterone rise with sexual activity. Therefore, an athlete retains strong feelings of aggression the following day.
"if he needs to be more aggressive, he needs to have sex," Emmanuele Jannin
of the Univerisity of L'Aquila, in Italy, told the magazine.
"It;s an adaptive mechanism. If a man has sexual intercourse, testosterone causes him to desire the next sexual intercourse."
Jannin's comments about male athletes conflicts with a commonly held notion that men should abstain from sex before sports to conserve energy.
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Ha, this age-old dispute is still going on? Thanks!
作者:古月 - 1999/11/28 15:18:06
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Indeed, it's directly related to the research I did more than 5 years ago when Hinduism was one of my compulsory courses in Philosophy of Religion. Interesting! Maybe it's more psychological than physiological? Brahman knows:-) Thanks for your interest!
Gu Yue
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I'm wondering how you felt about your study of religion. Just curious :-) Thanks.
作者:He Zi - 1999/11/28 16:42:44
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Well, it's not really a study of religion, rather that of its philosophy.
作者:古月 - 1999/11/28 17:13:06
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The study of religious scriptures would be pretty boring, but its origin and philosophy are quite interesting. I was mainly interested in the raison d'etre of religion: how it came about, what brought its founders into being, and what are its spiritual and social functions and political consequences, etc. This article on Shakti-Tantra is but a term paper on Hinduism. I don't pretend to be a Tantrik guru, much less an expert on Hinduism which does not even fall within my field of interest. In fact, Hinduism or Shakti-Tantra is not part of my research project on pan-religious phenomena.
Well, it's too big a subject to discuss right here at this forum. If I have time, I'll sort out my above-mentioned research project which I did 5 years ago and publish it on the net so that you'll know better my views on religion. Until then, let's settle for linguistic hairsplitters:-) Thanks a lot for your interest!
Gu Yue
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Thank you very much for your response!
作者:He Zi - 1999/11/28 17:43:43
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Wow! The Great Goddess of Illusion! Be aware of the dangers ahead ;-)
作者:子曰 - 1999/11/28 17:59:16
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Excellent article! Very interesting and instructive!
It is an undeniable fact that Kundalini exists, as it has been witnessed by several Eastern traditions, esp. Hindu, Taoist and Buddhist. But it is also undeniably dangerous for practitioners without proper mental and spiritual preparation or the strict guidance and supervision of an advanced master, as you mentioned. The human body is so incredible, some say it contains the whole universe, that once the energy of the Shakti type is released, it often gets out of control. However, it is more the by-product of meditative trance rather than an end in itself and goes far beyond the ordinary trantric practice.
It seems that yogic practice of this kind doesn't have much to do with spirituality, except when practiced in a spiritual context, and it is suited to very few people. That's why great founders of world religions put more emphasis on love, service, compassion and the elimination of the ego. The spiritual path is indeed full of pitfalls, one can never be too careful.
I hereby quote a Rumi poem to share:
Why Wine Is Forbidden
When the Prophet's ray of intelligence
struck the dim-witted man he was with,
the man got very happy, and talkative.
Soon, he began unmannerly raving.
This is the problem with a selflessness
that comes quickly,
as with wine.
If the drinker
Has a deep gentleness in him,
He will show that,
when drunk.
But if he has hidden anger and arrogance,
those appear,
and since most people do,
wine is forbidden to everyone.
Source: The Essential Rumi, translated by Coleman Barks with John Moyne, Castle Books, 1997
May you be blessed with the wine of divine love!
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Yes, love without lust! Thanks, Master!
作者:古月 - 1999/11/28 18:04:57
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No, love that embraces all. Thanks, philosopher!
作者:子曰 - 1999/11/28 18:33:47
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Ok, quite reassuring to hear that! Thanks, All-Embracer!
作者:古月 - 1999/11/28 18:38:19
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May I ask you a question?
作者:x - 1999/11/29 06:50:57
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I've just had a look at your thesis ( part one ) without giving it a second thought.(Sorry, time is not permitted.)
In your thesis, the practice of attaining the supreme consciousness is described. Does this practice really work?
Has it undergone any experiments and proved to be powerful?
Sorry to ask you such stupid questions. Please do forgive me if I uttered any unappropriate things!
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First, it's not my thesis...
作者:Gu Yue - 1999/11/29 09:22:08
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As I explained to He Zi, it's just a term paper on a subject outside my field of interest. Second, it's only a philosophical speculation on the thinking behind this particular type of Yoga without any clinical data to support it. Thirdly, my advice is given in the conclusion part. Please do read on! Thanks for your interest!
Gu Yue
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Reason labours will & One fire drives out another?
作者:xyz - 1999/12/01 07:34:01
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There are still some people,especially in the East believe that "reason labours will and one fire drives out another", which indicates the sexual desire and passion can be and should be converted into another fire and get it released through its master's focus transferring: fully displacing one's focus of attention to his/her job or to the things he/she is interested in. But it is also believed that it does harm for people of the above-mentioned type to diaplace(or quench?) their conventional desire for long.So for the sake of being physiologically and psychologically healthy, control oneself through some highly-demanded and carefully-operated practice, arouse one's vital energy and make him/her more energetic to serve the Almighty may after all be accepted as a way, at least for reference. Thank you for your information!
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You got the point! Thanks for your response!
作者:Gu Yue - 1999/12/01 10:18:39
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