forgot-to-be-sad 于 2000/02/26 23:49:29 发表在 汉英
采桑子 欲说还休
作者：辛弃疾
少年不识愁滋味，
爱上层楼，爱上层楼，
为赋新词强说愁。
而今识尽愁滋味，
欲说还休，欲说还休，
却道天凉好个秋。
Then and Now (in the tune of Caisangzi)
by Xin Qiji
When I was young,
I didn't know the taste of grief,
I loved to climb the storied tower;
I used to climb the storied tower,
To make new rhymes and in my songs
I pretended to feel the pain too.
Now that I know all the tastes of sorrow,
I must say, ... but no..;
I could say, ... but no..,
I shall just say:
“What a fine, chilly autumn day!”
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Excellent! Minor amendments...
作者：Owen - 2000/02/26 23:57:35
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Then and Now (in the tune of Caisangzi)
by Xin Qiji
When I was young,
I didn't know the taste of grief,
I loved to climb the storied tower;
I used to climb the storied tower,
To make new rhymes and in my songs
I pretended to be a sad flower.
Now that I know,
All the tastes of sorrow,
I must say, ... but no..;
I could say, ... but no..,
Feeling the chill, I just say:
“Oh, What a cool autumn day!”
Please note the last two lines. It's not just saying what a fine chilly autumn day. “chilly”itself is a kind of negative feeling. the original meaning could be: although I feel the chill, I'd just phrase it in positive terms as I “don't want to tell about my chilly feelings anymore after having tasted it all.” Here “cool” in “what a cool autumn day!” reflects the positive sense of “好个” in Chinese.
Hope you'll accept the correction, at least, for the last two lines.
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thx!
作者：forgot - 2000/02/27 00:08:51
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Wonderful! Thanks for sharing!
作者：the same feeling - 2000/02/27 03:43:20
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The last two sentences:
Feeling the chill, I just say:
“oh, what a cool autumn day!”
best express the writer's thoughts“I don't want to tell about my chilly feelings anymore after having tasted it all”。
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Enjoyable. Thanks. One may-not-be-right suggestion...
作者：北美 - 2000/02/27 07:11:27
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一个拿不准的想法：
却道天凉好个秋。
“凉”字反映出汉语的“模糊”，它可以指夏日后变冷，也可以是酷暑后的凉爽。如果是暗喻指人生到了秋季，也会有冷静、不惑、知天命的意思。
建议chilly 以外，也考虑冷字级别低一点的词汇。brisk, crisp?
译得非常好，尤其是
Now that I know,
All the tastes of sorrow,
I must say, ... but no..;
I could say, ... but no..,
真是“欲说还休。” 十分感谢。
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您的理解不无道理。
作者：古月 - 2000/02/27 12:05:05
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就算“凉”是“冷清”、“凄凉”的意思，但是到了不惑之年，人也沉稳多了，“凉意”深藏不表。明明感到有点透心凉，也只道是“好个凉爽的秋天！”就象人到暮年，虽近黄昏，但是，反而要感叹一番“夕阳无限好”那样。偿够了愁滋味的人就不再觉得有什么可说的了。我看你们基本上都没有误解原词的意思。
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谢谢提醒。我已是透心“亮”了。
作者：北美 - 2000/02/28 18:14:02
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The end crowns the work!
作者：hz - 2000/02/27 09:01:31
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sufferer?
作者：the same feeling - 2000/02/27 17:20:55
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sad flower 似乎有点女性化，能否用其他词替代，比如sufferer?
FRY.
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You got a point there! Thanks!
作者：Owen - 2000/02/27 18:56:58
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Then and Now (in the tune of Caisangzi)
by Xin Qiji
When I was young,
I didn't know the taste of grief,
I loved to climb the storied tower;
I used to climb the storied tower,
To make new rhymes and in my songs
I pretended to be feeling sour.
Now that I know,
All the tastes of sorrow,
I must say, ... but no..;
I could say, ... but no..,
Feeling the chill, I just say:
“Oh, What a cool autumn day!”
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Excellent! Thanks!
作者：Feeling the same - 2000/02/28 04:37:30
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